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> <channel><title>Comments on: Do You Need To Confirm/Verify Passwords On Sign Up?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.leemunroe.com/confirm-passwords-signup/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.leemunroe.com/confirm-passwords-signup/</link> <description>Freelance Web Design Belfast Northern Ireland</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 02:48:43 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Donny Kurnia</title><link>http://www.leemunroe.com/confirm-passwords-signup/comment-page-1/#comment-21714</link> <dc:creator>Donny Kurnia</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 02:37:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.leemunroe.com/?p=1538#comment-21714</guid> <description>Recently I&#039;m signing up in frecle. They have a great approach for sign up page. See it by yourself here: https://secure.letsfreckle.com/signup/FreeBy default, the password field is like ordinary textarea. Checking the &quot;Hide my password text—I&#039;m being watched!&quot; checkbox below the password field will make it to become 2 password type field. I like this approach and might use this for my next web applications.And I&#039;m agree about OpenID usage. I like stackoverflow.com approach. Don&#039;t make user create another username and password to remembered if you don&#039;t have to. Many twitter client application also use twitter&#039;s oAuth for authentication.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently I&#8217;m signing up in frecle. They have a great approach for sign up page. See it by yourself here: <a
href="https://secure.letsfreckle.com/signup/Free" rel="nofollow">https://secure.letsfreckle.com/signup/Free</a></p><p>By default, the password field is like ordinary textarea. Checking the &#8220;Hide my password text—I&#8217;m being watched!&#8221; checkbox below the password field will make it to become 2 password type field. I like this approach and might use this for my next web applications.</p><p>And I&#8217;m agree about OpenID usage. I like stackoverflow.com approach. Don&#8217;t make user create another username and password to remembered if you don&#8217;t have to. Many twitter client application also use twitter&#8217;s oAuth for authentication.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: joe gannon</title><link>http://www.leemunroe.com/confirm-passwords-signup/comment-page-1/#comment-15814</link> <dc:creator>joe gannon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:44:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.leemunroe.com/?p=1538#comment-15814</guid> <description>I dont see the big deal in asking the user to confirm it. It ensures the user&#039;s password created is correct. Tech savvy and less experienced users can both make mistakes. I think the bigger issue is with password creation. Most sites do a terrible job in educating the user into creating effective passwords that are strong yet easy to remember. Rules such as requiring 6 characters, with letters and numbers are not the best way to create a strong password.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont see the big deal in asking the user to confirm it. It ensures the user&#8217;s password created is correct. Tech savvy and less experienced users can both make mistakes. I think the bigger issue is with password creation. Most sites do a terrible job in educating the user into creating effective passwords that are strong yet easy to remember. Rules such as requiring 6 characters, with letters and numbers are not the best way to create a strong password.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Fixing Registration &#38; Login Forms – Passwords : Nexus Technologies LLC Software Consulting Milwaukee, WI</title><link>http://www.leemunroe.com/confirm-passwords-signup/comment-page-1/#comment-11364</link> <dc:creator>Fixing Registration &#38; Login Forms – Passwords : Nexus Technologies LLC Software Consulting Milwaukee, WI</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:10:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.leemunroe.com/?p=1538#comment-11364</guid> <description>[...] also read recently in the comments on a post about whether or not password confirmation is needed the idea that using a plain HTML text box is not as secure as an HTML password textbox when [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] also read recently in the comments on a post about whether or not password confirmation is needed the idea that using a plain HTML text box is not as secure as an HTML password textbox when [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lee</title><link>http://www.leemunroe.com/confirm-passwords-signup/comment-page-1/#comment-10958</link> <dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:24:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.leemunroe.com/?p=1538#comment-10958</guid> <description>Thanks for all the comments. It&#039;s hard to come to a conclusion on this.Seems that yes, the confirm password field is annoying and not so important for &#039;tech savvy&#039; users (which probably includes everyone that commented). On the other hand, for the non-tech savvy users it gives them assurance and also cuts down mistakes, based on several of your experiences.Does it depend on your target market then? Let&#039;s say a web app aimed at &#039;techies&#039; or as Sean mentioned those with passwords who &#039;can enter blindfolded with both hands tied behind your back&#039; could do without confirmation but more general apps towards all users should have confirm passwords?Open ID and other SSO solutions are getting more popular and are potentially the best solution going forward, skipping sign up completely.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the comments. It&#8217;s hard to come to a conclusion on this.</p><p>Seems that yes, the confirm password field is annoying and not so important for &#8216;tech savvy&#8217; users (which probably includes everyone that commented). On the other hand, for the non-tech savvy users it gives them assurance and also cuts down mistakes, based on several of your experiences.</p><p>Does it depend on your target market then? Let&#8217;s say a web app aimed at &#8216;techies&#8217; or as Sean mentioned those with passwords who &#8216;can enter blindfolded with both hands tied behind your back&#8217; could do without confirmation but more general apps towards all users should have confirm passwords?</p><p>Open ID and other SSO solutions are getting more popular and are potentially the best solution going forward, skipping sign up completely.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: links for 2009-09-10 &#171; toonz</title><link>http://www.leemunroe.com/confirm-passwords-signup/comment-page-1/#comment-10810</link> <dc:creator>links for 2009-09-10 &#171; toonz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:11:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.leemunroe.com/?p=1538#comment-10810</guid> <description>[...] Do You Need To Confirm/Verify Passwords On Sign Up? &#8211; Freelance Web Design Belfast Northern Ir... (tags: forms signup) [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Do You Need To Confirm/Verify Passwords On Sign Up? &#8211; Freelance Web Design Belfast Northern Ir&#8230; (tags: forms signup) [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Charles Boyung</title><link>http://www.leemunroe.com/confirm-passwords-signup/comment-page-1/#comment-10764</link> <dc:creator>Charles Boyung</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 05:21:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.leemunroe.com/?p=1538#comment-10764</guid> <description>Re: David LowryDo you think there is some sort of form encoding with a password input form element?  As far as the HTTP request being sent, the password and text input types are absolutely identical.  Also, as for the browser remembering entered passwords, there are HTML 5 attributes that prevent autocomplete from working that all browsers with that functionality from saving that value.  No security hole there either.That said, even though Jakob Nielsen has suggested it as the best practice to move towards (and I agree completely), there is the user trust factor to take into account.  This is why when I convince my clients to go this route, part of the design includes a small link next to the password textbox that states something along the lines of &quot;why is my password shown in plain text?&quot; which pops up a small inline box explaining why it is this way and how there is no security problem while doing so.  It is also important to follow Nielsen&#039;s recommendation completely here, which is to include a checkbox to &quot;hide my typing&quot;, which converts the characters to the discs (or anything else, really).  With this mechanism, you can even easily do what someone above suggested, which is to mimic what the iPhone does.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: David Lowry</p><p>Do you think there is some sort of form encoding with a password input form element?  As far as the HTTP request being sent, the password and text input types are absolutely identical.  Also, as for the browser remembering entered passwords, there are HTML 5 attributes that prevent autocomplete from working that all browsers with that functionality from saving that value.  No security hole there either.</p><p>That said, even though Jakob Nielsen has suggested it as the best practice to move towards (and I agree completely), there is the user trust factor to take into account.  This is why when I convince my clients to go this route, part of the design includes a small link next to the password textbox that states something along the lines of &#8220;why is my password shown in plain text?&#8221; which pops up a small inline box explaining why it is this way and how there is no security problem while doing so.  It is also important to follow Nielsen&#8217;s recommendation completely here, which is to include a checkbox to &#8220;hide my typing&#8221;, which converts the characters to the discs (or anything else, really).  With this mechanism, you can even easily do what someone above suggested, which is to mimic what the iPhone does.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Arie Putranto</title><link>http://www.leemunroe.com/confirm-passwords-signup/comment-page-1/#comment-10761</link> <dc:creator>Arie Putranto</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:17:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.leemunroe.com/?p=1538#comment-10761</guid> <description>Well, I think it wasted my time. To be careful not to mistype when submitting a password is way more reasonable than to submit it twice! You&#039;d think ...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think it wasted my time. To be careful not to mistype when submitting a password is way more reasonable than to submit it twice! You&#8217;d think &#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: CSS Brigit &#124; Do You Need To Confirm/Verify Passwords On Sign Up?</title><link>http://www.leemunroe.com/confirm-passwords-signup/comment-page-1/#comment-10760</link> <dc:creator>CSS Brigit &#124; Do You Need To Confirm/Verify Passwords On Sign Up?</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:54:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
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...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong> Do You Need To Confirm/Verify Passwords On Sign Up?&#8230;</strong></p><p> What is the best route to take if designing/developing a sign up form?</p><p> &#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sean</title><link>http://www.leemunroe.com/confirm-passwords-signup/comment-page-1/#comment-10755</link> <dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:15:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.leemunroe.com/?p=1538#comment-10755</guid> <description>Just to be clear, you are suggesting replacing a field that takes 5 seconds tops to fill out with the &quot;remember your password&quot; link, which users 1. have to find, 2. have to fill out, and 3. have to wait for the email? How exactly is that faster?Yes, for the technically savvy, that 5 seconds of repeating a password which you probably can enter blindfolded with both hands tied behind your back may be a nuisance.But for those who are not you, the confirm password field helps ensure that your users are not making a critical mistake that will immediately prevent them from using your website.So, 5 seconds of extra typing, or users leaving your website because they cannot get signed in...which is the better end result?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to be clear, you are suggesting replacing a field that takes 5 seconds tops to fill out with the &#8220;remember your password&#8221; link, which users 1. have to find, 2. have to fill out, and 3. have to wait for the email? How exactly is that faster?</p><p>Yes, for the technically savvy, that 5 seconds of repeating a password which you probably can enter blindfolded with both hands tied behind your back may be a nuisance.</p><p>But for those who are not you, the confirm password field helps ensure that your users are not making a critical mistake that will immediately prevent them from using your website.</p><p>So, 5 seconds of extra typing, or users leaving your website because they cannot get signed in&#8230;which is the better end result?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark McCorkell</title><link>http://www.leemunroe.com/confirm-passwords-signup/comment-page-1/#comment-10751</link> <dc:creator>Mark McCorkell</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 10:37:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.leemunroe.com/?p=1538#comment-10751</guid> <description>For me, the real pain in the ass is the visual confirmations that are so obscure they are actually illegible. On google some of their visual confirmations are really hard to read and when you click on the audio is sounds like someone talking on tongues! A bit off topic but thought I needed a rant! :D</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, the real pain in the ass is the visual confirmations that are so obscure they are actually illegible. On google some of their visual confirmations are really hard to read and when you click on the audio is sounds like someone talking on tongues! A bit off topic but thought I needed a rant! <img
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